Knowing Your Edge to Give You Power in All Situations

0:00:02.1 S2: What if saying YES could allow for you to go on multiple international adventures. Well, today you’re gonna hear how Jen Thornton decided after doing something very interesting that might have gotten to her head a bit, she said, Yes, and by the way, she also realized very quickly how important it is to be you and nobody else, and that helped catapult her career going forward. So let’s jump into this conversation.

0:00:53.6 S1: You’re listening to the Silver Line relaunch, and I’m your host, Hillary to Cesar award-winning entrepreneur and transitional coach. Each week I’ll invite you to tune into inspirational stories, revealing how you too can turn ordinary experiences into the extraordinary feeling stuck. I’ll share step-by-step strategies to fuel your ability to experience a life where silver linings are both abundant and possible. Welcome, everyone to the Silver Lined Relaunch. And today, I have Jen Thornton with me. And you are in for a treat. The conversation is going to be lively and she’s got so much to talk about, and so… We are jumping in. Jen, thank you for being here, thank you so much for having me. It’s gonna be a fun show. It will definitely be a fun show, so what I always like to do is I always like to hit hard fast and say, we’ve all been through a lot of relaunches, those many… Those mega ones, but let’s hear about your journey and your relates.

0:02:15.1 S2: So it’s interesting, you look back in life and you think about relaunches, and there are those pivotal moments that you kind of remember the smell and the color of the wall, paper maybe on the wall or just those little things about it, and when I was thinking about the relaunch that I’ve had, which one really made the biggest difference in my life, and it was such a crazy day for me, I actually was… It was one evening, I was at the salon, I had a head full of color, I remember the smell. We all know that color. And it was probably seven something o’clock at night. And my phone rings and it’s my chief HR officer, and I’m like, Oh, what’s gone wrong? Really, you do get that panic, the chief HR officer is coming. It was a very large global organization. And so he’s like, Hey, Jen, you’ve been to China before, right? And I was like, Well, yeah, I’ve been to China before I went for vacation. And he’s like, when you think about moving to Hong Kong for a couple of months, and I was like, What do you want me to do when I get there? And he’s like, I really have no idea, but we’re gonna purchase some stores back from our partner there, we don’t know what we’re gonna find, and we just need someone to go over there and just figure out what we’ve got, what we’re dealing with, and…

0:03:34.0 S2: Will you go… And I don’t know why it was almost an outer body experience, it was probably all those chemicals, right? From my hair, I was like, Yes, I’ll go. And I was like, Did I just say that? And then he’s like, Now, wait a minute, you can’t say yes or not go, you should probably talk to your husband, and I was like, Okay, okay, I want everyone to hear that you should probably talk to your son…

0:03:58.6 S1: We’re not talking about that TV show, Emily in Paris where she’s young, he doesn’t have… She hasn’t had a husband.

0:04:07.0 S2: And her and her Jen saying, Yeah, yeah, I’m ready. Alright, come up to me. Go to homecoming for a couple of months. Why not me? Sounds like fun. And so I know like I texted him and I was like, Hey, do you mind if I moved to Hong Kong for three to five months? And he’s so normal. And he was like, Sure, I’ll feed the dogs. Moroder.

0:04:28.7 S1: Two months, two months, I’m gonna be gone. That’s what the Chief HR Officer right now, all of a sudden it’s gone to potentially four to five months, and then in response to your husband says, I believe it’s still in tax. Sure, I’ll feed the dog. I love are loving this.

0:04:50.5 S2: Okay, it’s really one of those things where like, What was I thinking? But it was all meant to be, your body responds and tells you what you should do in my body, again, how to be all… A chemical said yes. And so I called my boss back and said, I’m coming… And he’s like, Are you sure? And I’m like, Yeah. And so I packed my bags when I was probably about four weeks later when we left, it was myself and three other co-workers, the four of us packed up and moved to Hong Kong, and it was the most incredible ride ever… I learned so much about myself. There’s nothing like getting dropped off in a country where you don’t know anyone or don’t share a language, or… I just mean from Dallas, Texas to Hong Kong, there, differences there. But the confidence of that brains and figuring it out is just invaluable. Okay, so I have to push her here.

0:05:52.8 S1: How long did you stay…

0:05:55.5 S2: So I went for about two months, I came home for 10 days, went back for I think another about month and a half, came back for a couple of weeks, and then went back for maybe another month, so across five months went back and forth, but what was so fantastic about it is it went well, so then my organization decided to open stores in Mexico, so they were like, Well, now that you’ve gotten… You did this in Hong Kong and China. Do you mind going to Mexico? And I was like, Sure.

0:06:25.6 S1: You have international experience. Your tag is our girl.

0:06:30.4 S2: Exactly, there wasn’t a lot willing to do it, and I always joke, they’re like, Well, what were your qualifications? I was like, I was willing to go, but it.

0:06:37.6 S1: Was my qualification… You know what I always say? You said yes. You read, yes. You were willing to… Yes, we know those chemicals on our head when we were processing, they are very strong, we all understand we can smell this amount, but at the same time, we always talk about the three ages, we talk about that heart center to the head, to the higher self to trusting your higher self, and that’s what you were doing, you were saying, Ah-ha, and thankfully, or your husband was saying, Hey, I’ll feed the dog go and now… Let’s still go back to Hong Kong. How long ago was this?

0:07:13.7 S2: At this… That was probably seven years ago when I make that move.

0:07:19.3 S1: Okay, so seven years ago, you are now in a foreign country and yes, very, very different than here where you were in the US, and you all of a sudden you do have… You said you were going with three others from the office, so you had somewhat of a small, a small posse of people that your tribe that was still there, but we’re talking like millions and millions of people buildings in… For those that haven’t been to Hong Kong, it puts San Francisco to shame. I mean, it is just building after building, there’s not a place that doesn’t have us all the water, and even in the water, there’s all of the traffic out there, and so you start to go down this, this path of… I’m here, were you able to completely embrace this relaunch from day one, or did you have to kinda go through, like we talk about the seven steps of re-launching the ReLaunch effect, was it a little bit of re-setting and a little bit of re-imagining and trying to get like, Okay, how am I gonna make this work? Or were you like hitting the ground running…

0:08:33.2 S1: So I think it was a combination. I think some days it felt like I was hitting the ground running, in other days it felt like… What was I thinking? But that’s what relaunch feels like. Success is in a straight line. And some days she wake up and you think this is the best idea ever, and other days you’re like, What was I thinking? Which was definitely that led to me opening my own business, and that’s how you still feel about my business today, but you know, the longer I was there and the more I kinda settled into it and the more wins I had, then obviously the confidence grew and then I had less of those days of stress and worrisome, but when you relaunch, count every teeny tiny win ’cause everyone adds up, and I think that’s what sometimes we forget, we think that we turn his turn a corner, we re-launch and the winning finish line is right there like you just step over the finish line and there was no race to run to get there, so yeah, so I really had to focus on counting those small wins and you know what? Success isn’t a straight line, right? To this day, haven’t met a person that said, this is what…

0:09:43.7 S1: Where I was, this is what I wanted, and it was just a straight shot there, I mean, my gosh, you know it isn’t… And you have to appreciate those small wins because those small wins literally are the bread crumbs to get into the bigger one to getting to the point, but you still have to know that what you’re ultimately going for, right, or when you don’t even know it’s a win, you just bypass it, you forget to even think about it, and then you start to really, truly focus on… Oh, what’s not happening? What’s not happening? Okay, so now all of a sudden, we are now moving into this next adventure and… Did you end up going to Mexico? I.

0:10:28.7 S2: Did… Now, that was a little different because Mexico City wasn’t that far from Dallas, so it was more of like going during the week and coming back on weekends, it was a lot of back and forth, but I did that, which was incredible, learned obviously a lot in that experience, and then that led to London. ’cause it.

0:10:46.9 S1: Another way, we just go sit, you’re talking another… I think it might even be one of the most densely populated cities in the world, so you’ve now on Hong Kong to Mexico City, so I gotta tell you, I’m loving this international experience for you. Okay, so how long were you in Mexico?

0:11:04.2 S2: So I probably was on that assignment, gosh, maybe six months back and forth, but I kept my responsibilities in Hong Kong, I led the international team, and so though was focusing on Mexico, I still did work in Hong Kong and China and still kinda went back and forth and visited and did all that too, so I kinda collected countries as I went along.

0:11:27.4 S1: I collected countries. Okay, but I know what most people are thinking right now is how was the dog doing… No, I’m kidding.

0:11:35.2 S2: How was that… How’s.

0:11:37.3 S1: Your husband… How was the relationship… What was going on here? Because I assume he did not come with you to Mexico either…

0:11:44.5 S2: No, he did and he hands his own business, so he couldn’t… And so I think it was, it was… We have a really great relationship where we both have our own goals and we have our goals together, and we’re so supportive to each other’s goals, and it was a lot of making sure that when I was home, that I was present and that we focused on quality versus quantity. Now with quarantine, I see him all the time, I probably spend less quality, but I see him every day, so it feels a little different. But back then, we just really focused on just having a really great time when we were both in the same country, ’cause he actually traveled internationally too, so it was a crazy few years for us, but it was fantastic. Okay.

0:12:32.0 S1: And when you talk about re-launches and you talk about how their silver linings of everything, right, and I can completely appreciate this quality over quantity, and then in today’s world, we’re like, Oh my goodness, I got so much quantity… Exactly, but I wanna ask you, looking back down for those people that are going to be given opportunities in the future here as things begin to open up and everything will be a little newer, there’s gonna be changes that happen, what silver linings? What lessons did you learn about being an inhabit, being willing to say yes. That’s.

0:13:22.4 S2: Such a great question. I learned enough lessons to fill the world, but I think what I learned is that I’m stronger than I know… That I’m more resilient than I know. One of the things I also learned is if I could be dropped off in a foreign country and figure out how to open a business for a major corporation, I could probably figure it out on my own, and it gave me the confidence to eventually open my own business, and I don’t think I would have… Actually, I know, I don’t think… I know I would have never had the confidence to go out and do my own business and relaunch again as a single person, as an entrepreneur, peer, but it was that confidence and that’s that silver lining, and I would do it all over again over and over and over again, I would… It was just fantastic. And the three other people that I went to Hong Kong with, I didn’t know them, I’d never met them prior to the four of us going… It was a big company. None of us, I didn’t even know that. Even didn’t even know they existed. And so the four of us went there and we’re still just the best of friends today, and we have little zoom reunions constantly, but it’s just…

0:14:34.2 S2: The silver lining is you never know what kind of friendships, what kind of confidence, and even the bad days are teaching you something and you’ll be leveraging it in your future.

0:14:45.5 S1: Okay, so this reminds me of something that’s going on right now, so my daughter, my youngest daughter is going through some hard times right now, she’s off at college and I was visiting her, and one of the things that we decided for the month of February, February was going to be the month of saying yes. The month of saying yes. Okay, and I thought, You know what? If she can say Yes, I will say yes, and I said, But you gotta agree to this, we’re either in this together or not, and she said, Alright, alright, I’m gonna do… I’m in it, I’m going to say yes. And Justin, I got this crazy request to be on a podcast that’s way out there, way out there, normally I would be like, Oh, it’s not a good fit. I’m not sure, I’m not sure that this is necessarily my tribe… Right. And she looked at me and I just said, I say yes, and I feel like… And we’ve been doing this and it’s been a wonderful experience. Something that you know, I don’t suggest doing permanently because there’s definitely that moment where you should say no, but for you, your silver lining came with that intuition, that greater higher self, where you’re like, I need to trust that this is what I should be doing.

0:16:06.4 S1: And guess what happened, it ended up that now you have your own business, you were able to launch it as you know, as you said, a solo entrepreneur, and that wouldn’t have happened, it would not have happened unless you were willing and kudos to your husband that that’s amazing, that is incredible. And I love, love, love, supportive men and sorta supportive partners. I really think that that is so amazing. But now, tell me, once you now have launched this company, and you said that all these experiences allowed you to be stronger, you had more resilience, Where is this taking you now, where are you going… That’s.

0:16:53.5 S2: Such a good question. And some days, I don’t know, and I’m really okay with that. And where it’s taken me now is I get to get up every day and do what I love, I get to help organizations create environments where people are respected and treated well and allowed to be the best version of themselves, I help people have the career, they’ve always wanted and to do it in their style and not force a style on to them and every… And I’ve been in business now almost four years, but just… It’s always blossoming. It’s always evolving and changing, and I don’t know where it’s going because it surprises me around every turn, and I just love that, I love just the growth of being okay, that the business is going to go where it’s gonna go, and I’m driving the ship and we’ll see if… And when we land. But yeah, I think that’s a big piece of where I am in my career, is not forcing the end result, but allowing the end result to show up through hard work.

0:18:11.0 S1: Allow the end result to show up… To show up. That’s so great. I do wanna go back, you said, How do you not force a style on to someone… Tell us. What does that even mean?

0:18:23.9 S2: So one of the things I find, and especially with women, is they get feedback that, I need you to be this way, or I need you to do that, and so we’re supposed to take feedback, we’re supposed to love it, we’re told, do you know if someone gives you feedback. Act on it. I don’t know if that’s a true… I don’t always recommend that, so what happened is that the best part of you, the thing that makes you the most successful oftentimes is also the thing that hold you back sometimes… Right. And so we get feedback that we need to be different, and so then we wake up and we try to be someone different, and that endeavor turns out, well, we can only be the person we are, but what we can do is be who we are and learn how to situational manage those big pieces of us, those big parts of us that need to be managed sometimes, and I just… There’s so many people that I’ve been working with lately, and we’ve really been focusing on that and just stepping away from the feedback and looking at it, not directly, but looking at it like What does that mean towards who we are and be embracing…

0:19:35.5 S2: Absolutely who we are, and it’s amazing the progress that my clients are making when we just get really comfortable with being us.

0:19:46.8 S1: I think so many of us, and we do get feedback and as a woman, we emotionally kind of latch onto it like, Well, wait a second. Am I doing something wrong? Is there a different way, especially for those that are currently in a very male-centric environment where sometimes the feedback we get is from a man who reports to a man who reports to another, and it might be the only woman, the woman in the room, and they’re telling you to the point of like, Hey, maybe you have to have a little bit more of a stiff upper lip or maybe you just… You have to try this or that, and if we do that, we end up actually losing ourself, as you said, and we lose the fact that we’re women, we’re not men, and we’re not supposed to act that way, and we can just to successfully be in our feminine energy as a man can be in his masculine, right, we’re not sitting there telling every single man out there, Hey, can you get a little more more feminine, we don’t do that, but yet we hear women are getting this all the time, Hey, you know, I really would like you to be a little bit…

0:21:10.4 S1: Come on in. We’ll be so emotional. Does… What do you suggest for women when they are in an environment where they feel like they have to transform into… And it’s not just… Sometimes the women are very much in their masculine as your boss or co-workers and your thinking, how do you stay in your femininity?

0:21:37.8 S2: So I think that it’s about first who you are and knowing what gives you your power in your edge, and I always love talking about what’s your edge, and if you look at the definition of the word Edge, it’s the sharpest side of the blade. And so know what your sharpest side of the blade is because it’ll be your best friend and you’re work into me all at the same time. Right. And so I think to stay focused in that, you have to also recognize Whatever got you to the position you’re in today, it has to be managed different to be successful in that current position. So for example, I work with a lot of women in it, and what got them to direct or our vice president is they’re highly detailed ’cause they’re in it, but then that they’re trying to be told, Well, you need to be more strategic and you need to be more of this, and you’re more that… And they’re like, Oh no, what that is? I’m like, Do you know what that is? It’s about being detailed and focused around the strategy, and it’s about using that detail in a different way, and I think being a woman, one of the things that we’re really good at is adapting and understanding our environment and being able to maneuver really well, and that’s what I think women have to do is you have to know what your edge is, but then it’s very malleable, you have to be able to walk in the room and deploy that edge in multiple ways so that it lands in a way that’s productive, and you don’t get the feedback, not to be who you are.

0:23:15.0 S1: The edge is the sharpest side of the blade. The best friend, it could be your worst. And me, how true is that that is that some power in those words, because I do believe that you have to be willing to really look at you and understand that there are two sides… Two sides to every coin. Two sides to every situation when you are now working with both men and women… You work with both men and women. Yes, you… Yes, I thought so, I just wanna make sure. And you are really encouraging them to get to their edge, to understand that, what are the steps, what are the few steps that you can let us know on how to even get there, how do we find our edge, how do we understand our edge?

0:24:14.1 S2: So it’s sometimes really difficult for people to recognize what makes them powerful. And what I like to do is just open up the conversation. Tell me about times you felt good, tell me about a time that you got praise, tell me about a time you accomplished your goal, tells all… And just start writing down all the wins, any win that we think of, small, big, large, whatever size it comes in, because then what we do is we look across those and we say, what’s the common themes? So if you list out 20 wins there and why you want in that situation or why you accomplish what you wanted, there’s going to be some similarities, and that’s what you pull out, because that’s what you’re deploying in multiple ways, and that’s what… Then we start to work on so that we understand what that person’s edges, and then again, we deploy it more purposely, ’cause oftentimes it’s being deployed unconsciously and it’s just showing up, but then when you understand it and know how to manage it, and then I can be very purposeful with it. It gets even sharper and even more powerful.

0:25:21.5 S1: So it’s like wielding the sword versus having the sword kind of be in control of itself and it’s all over the place, right in… I think of it like a fencing person, right? You’re very methodical. Once you understand your edge, once you understand kind of that sweet spot, I call it the G-zone, that genius sound, that zone where you’re really in your greatness, and I love that it is. You’ve got that edge that’s going to get you, but then there’s that other side that you have to be careful with, that’s really… That’s fabulous. Okay, so when you kept going with this, you created this company and you are now moving into this next level of your own business, right, you’re getting… You said you’ve been doing this a few years. Tell us about what’s on the horizon for you and where you really are hoping to take it, and how do you take that that… Yes, attitude. And put it into your business. And where you’re going.

0:26:33.7 S2: Oh, so do you ask the best questions… I love it. To make me think, it’s so good. So I think that what I would say is, I do love to say yes, but part of saying yes is being able to say no, and you mentioned that you’re in this trial phase of February, and you know that you won’t do that forever, but it’s such a good way to practice that muscle. And so for me, one of the things that I had to say Yes to last year, it was really hard for me, I was kind of putting myself out there and on social media and podcast and really finding my voice and being comfortable using my voice, which is amazing. It led us to our friendship and meeting today, and I was gonna say, you found your voice, girl.

0:27:17.6 S1: Like.

0:27:18.4 S2: Yeah, you’re doing it. You’re doing it. I had to say Yes to do that, and it was so scary, it was… It was really… It was very hard for me, and this year I’m challenging myself in some new ways, and I’m trying to figure out how to do that, but again, I know where I say No the most often, or I say No the most often is the stage… The lights, cameras like those types of things. And that’s why I’m having to say yes. And that’s another thing I think, as a leader, you have to know where you’re hiding and figure out how to get comfortable in those spaces that you’re hiding in.

0:28:00.7 S1: So good and putting yourself out there, I think is… Especially in this digital world we live in. Is challenging. It’s challenging for everyone. Right, I mean, even those that are super comfortable on camera, you have that moment of like before you go live or before you’re doing something like that, because there’s this… I don’t wanna screw up in what if I mess up? What if they don’t like me? And how do you overcome that? In yourself.

0:28:33.5 S2: So one of the things I remind myself with or about is that the clear I am on who I am, the more often someone may not be excited about it, and the more authentic I am, there’s probably more people who are just… I’m not their person and I’m getting okay with that, but when you try to be something for everybody and you’re not yourself… It doesn’t look right, it doesn’t feel right. It doesn’t look natural. We’ve all seen someone and it’s painful to what? Watch, you’re like, Oh, and so when you’re not gonna be like then either. So if you’re in a situation that you know whether you’re yourself or where you’re trying to make it, the world is not gonna all sign up for you, not 100%, so just be yourself anyhow, just be yourself. It’s so much easier, it’s so much more fun. It’s so much more liberating. And I just had to get okay with the fact that I have a very different view point on leadership, of a very different view point on how companies should be led, and I’m getting really okay with people not agreeing with that, and that’s okay, ’cause that’s…

0:29:41.8 S2: If they wanna run their company a different way, that’s their choice, it’s their company, if they wanna run it in a way that I feel like is really gonna lead them into the 21st century and where we’re going, and environments that have a high level of agility and unknown and unpredictability and learning to lead in that then they’re my tribe, and I wanna work with them, and so… Yeah, so it’s just getting used to it. It’s a muscle, it takes work, but I’m starting to really fall in love with just being uncomfortable.

0:30:14.0 S1: Okay, and what you said, which is so powerful, is that you don’t need everyone to like you, you don’t need everyone to be in your tribe, what are there over seven billion people now on the server… Right, you don’t need that. You can have… You can have the company that’s IPO-ing and how all the clients and not even tap into the 1% of all the people out there, you don’t need to be anything but yourself, that is such a perfect, perfect, perfect way to now go into, what are you coming out with soon how people can get to know you better because that I love… You only need… And you only want the people that have those same viewpoints, that have that same like… That Juno what you’re looking for, right? So tell us, Jen what is coming up on the horizon for you and how can my listeners hear more vacuum?

0:31:27.4 S2: So we are launching a leading edge in April, and we do this every April, and I offer a free leadership workshop, or we’re doing three workshops each, 90 minutes this year, and I work with organizations, not with individuals, but there are so many individuals that don’t have access to high-quality leadership training, so once a year, I put some out there and I invite the world to show up, and it’s completely complimentary, and where this year, we’re gonna focus on growth mindset and we’re gonna focus on conversations that influence, and we’re also gonna talk a lot about conversation agility, and that’s gonna really help people understand when they are working with their teams, how do they listen for limiting beliefs, how do they listen for things that people are believing that are holding them back so they can help them reframe? And so it’s gonna be a lot about conversations this year, and we’re so excited at launch as April 21st.

0:32:27.4 S1: And did you get that its leading edge. I mean, how perfect or talking about the power of your edge. Okay, so super, super excited to share that. We will share that in the show notes, we also know that there will be a giveaway that you’re gonna be doing for us, and so we’ll make sure to get that link out there as well. So in wrapping up this episode, I like to do a little rapid fire questions… Are you ready, Jen?

0:32:57.1 S2: I’m ready. Let’s do that.

0:33:00.3 S1: Let’s do this. Okay, what was the last thing you said? No to was… Last thing, I said no too. I said no to a client recently, and what was it regarding at what has me to say no.

0:33:17.6 S2: It was a client that was amazing, but what she wanted to work on, I wasn’t my specialty, and I didn’t think I could be the right person for her, so I referred her to someone else.

0:33:29.8 S1: That was so great. Okay, what has been the FA… Your favorite city to work in. Hong Kong by far, Hong Kong is my first love and always will be so good. And favorite podcast besides this one…

0:33:49.5 S2: Oh my gosh, that is so hard. There’s so many great ones. So I would say that it’s not… Well, I guess it is a podcast, but it’s more virtual, but I love Oprah Winfrey, I love her interviews. And I can watch them over and over and over again, so I send it, oh my gosh, Sunday morning. What else do you do? But watch her. That’s my Sunday morning routine.

0:34:16.5 S1: She is absolutely. I mean, there is a reason Oprah is… Oprah, right there is a reason. She is so good. Not pulling out information, I love that woman. Okay, what about… I love this beauty product and the name of it.

0:34:36.5 S2: So my favorite PD product is Lancer, Dr. Lancer and great skin care, and I’m obsessed with it. I love it.

0:34:45.8 S1: Okay, you know what I love about this question is that everyone has their kind of their go-to, and for instance, I’ve heard of Dr. Liner did not know Skin Care, didn’t know anything, so love the fact that we are learning from others what they love, what their passions are, what they’re like, Oh, their go-to products. Okay. Backyard barbecue or a winky cocktail party.

0:35:10.8 S2: Oh, backyard barbecue. Day after day.

0:35:14.1 S1: Okay, and now that you’ve been to so many different places. What is your favorite food?

0:35:23.8 S2: Oh, my favorite food. I love Indian food, I’m actually vegetarian. So Indian food is fantastic, it’s probably my favorite and… No, I do love Mexican food too. I love all food, how can you pick a favor and… It’s like picking your favorite child. Yet very true, yeah. I’ve given a choice, I will go to a great Indian restaurant any day of the week.

0:35:44.4 S1: I love that. Okay, and we are now gonna be heading into the spring… What is your go-to Pool side drink. It could be alcoholic or non-alcoholic… Yeah, if it’s pool side, it’s a margarita. Love those.

0:36:02.3 S2: As a text in what else could you drink by the pool.

0:36:06.5 S1: So… Great, okay, and there is a bonus question, What does a powerhouse of possibility mean to you?

0:36:15.8 S2: Oh, a power house. A possibility, what that means to me is life, every human is a power house full of opportunity, and there are a lot of road blocks ’cause we’re humans, so we get those, and every human has the ability to smash through them, and I just think of humans and what they’re capable of, and I love learning about people and what they’ve accomplished, and just hearing stories of what people really can do with their life, if they say yes, I mean, there’s just so much opportunity in the world.

0:36:53.9 S1: Well, today we love hearing your story, we love the fact that you said Yes, we love the fact that your husband said yes. And I wanna say thank you to you for being on the show today. What a great, great conversation.

0:37:09.0 S2: Thank you for having me, I had the best time.

0:37:11.9 S1: Alright, we will talk to you again. So take care. Thank you so much for tuning in to another episode of The Silver-lined relaunch. If I said something today that resonated with you, will you please head over to iTunes right now and leave us a five-star review and share this episode with others and help them find the silver linings as well, and.

0:37:41.9 S2: Don’t forget, you can have immediate access to the show notes any giveaways and the links to those amazing beauty products at the podcast, until next time, there is always a silver lining, and now is the time to hit the reset button to re-launch those transitions into transformations.

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